Steeping 101, by vaporrater, a comprehensive guide.
We often talk about steeping here, yet it still comes up almost daily (usually in the comments section) with folks stating how much they disliked juice X when everyone else thinks it's To Die For.
The fact is, juice is a complex blend of different elements and quite often, it's not very good until those different flavors have a chance to meld into a singular, cohesive flavor profile...think about how much better a hearty stew tastes a day or two after it's been sitting in the fridge.
That being said, here is the process I use for steeping every juice I receive for review (unless the vendor specifically requests that the juice be reviewed fresh from the mailbox).
- Upon receipt, every bottle is opened, old air is squeezed out, new air enters.
- The bottle then goes into the steeping drawer (cap on), in the order they were received so that I can better keep track of what's next for review.
- Every day (sometimes every other day, as I do tend to get busy) the bottles are shaken, opened, and given another light squeeze to allow more fresh air into the bottle.
- This process continues with every bottle until it is ready for review, usually 3-4 weeks.
- I have also recently begun giving every bottle a single night, in the drawer, uncapped, just before review to help dissipate any of the volatile perfume-y/floral notes that some juices (pomegranate, blackberry to name a few) are burdened with.
- If at that point, when I sit down with the juice to begin the review, it still doesn't taste right, I will occasionally attempt a hot water bath (sometimes even two) to see if there is any difference in flavor...to date, this has had no effect on bottles that have already been properly steeped.
I know there are many other methods (i.e. hot rice), but this is my method, and it works. I am hopeful that it will help out a few people who can't understand why everyone goes crazy for something like Indigo's tobacco flavors, when all they taste is hot gasoline and burning tree bark.
First troop deployed!
The first of my troops is been deployed!
This one is from Princessvapeypoo:
Next in my mailbox was a package from The Vapor Chef, a new online juice vendor with a snazzy looking website and an interesting background in culinary arts. I placed my order late last week (Friday or Saturday, I think), and received it the next Wednesday, including government holiday delays. The juices I ordered were: PB Nomnoms, Unicorn Poop, and Frosty Blue Jazzberry. Honey Pearry came as an additional sample!
PB Nomnoms was the one full-sized juice I bought this time. I don’t think I was expecting this, but it came in a nice, solid, glass bottle with eyedrop dripper.
Off the bat, I’m sure this one is going to need more steeping. But the first thing you get opening the bottle is the smell of real peanuts, more than the sugar of the cookie. On vaping, however, the other bakery/cookie flavors really come through. This is my first peanutbutter/peanut vape, and my first in my search for a great peanutbutter cookie vape. It’s good right out of the box, but I really can’t wait to try it again in a week.
Unicorn Poop - This one sells on the name alone, of course. My first impression? Sweet sweetness. It’s a cupcake/cookie vape, and it does as advertised. Sort of a light-berry-flavored sugary treat on the bakery-end of things. I dig it, but I’m not over-the-moon in love enough to buy more. Still, if you’re looking for a cupcakey frosting-ness vape, Unicorn Poop is a solid bet. Again, I suspect in a week it’ll be even better. And I suspect I’m really going to like it more in a Vivi Nova.
Frosty Blue Jazzberry - Not a favorite. Description says, “blue raspberry ice.” To be fair, I think I interpreted that as a slushy sort of flavor, for some stupid reason. What I got was kind of a weird berry flavor with a cool note. Well, that might actually be what it’s supposed to be. Maybe it’s just that I’m not much on raspberry flavors and was expecting something more on a sweet blueberry end. I know, I know – RTFM. It does taste like raspberry. And coolness. So while I personally don’t care for it, it still holds as a decent flavor because it is what it claims to be. Maybe it’ll grow on me – it’s not unvapeable by any means.
Honey Pearry – Apparently this is a local favorite for this vendor. I was really glad they threw it in as a freebie, because I’d wished I’d bought it to try out, anyway.
On first vape, I’m barely getting any strawberry. It’s very, very heavy on the honeydew, but I can definitely make out the pear. After a few longer vapes, though, I can just make out a hint of strawberry. I’m honestly not sure how I feel about this juice, as I’m not crazy about melons as a food, and this really, really tastes like a honeydew. Again, it is a juice that tastes as described, and I can’t fault that, even if my own tastebuds don’t jump up and down in glee. Maybe the strawberry will rise up a bit after steeping.
Kind of like the Frosty Blue Jazzberry, though, the more I vape it, the more I’m starting to dig it.
So there it is. First impressions of FuZion Vapor and The Vapor Chef. I’m using a standard Joye 510 bridgeless atty, around 2.2ohms resistance. I was using my twist at first, but switched to my Vamo, right around 9Watts. All juices were 6mg nicotine, 50/50 VG/PG. All juices were juices I personally purchased, with the exception of the Honey Pearry freebie from Vapor Chef. Vape hard, vape strong!
A review from Maddoktor!
Hi, folks. =)
It's time for another review, this time of The Vapor Chef E Liquids. The juices I'll be reviewing today are theCaramel Apple , and the Frosty Apple .
Ready? Here we go:
These are some of the higher-end priced juices available, with 5ml bottles for $3.99, 15ml bottles for $10.99, and 30ml bottles for $19.99.
Now, here's where it gets a little complicated:
The 5ml bottles are actually 6ml bottles, and you get the full 6ml even though it's listed as 5ml. Nice.
The 15ml bottles are just that. Also nice.
The 30ml bottles are indeed 30ml, but here's the kicker: you get an extra 6ml bottle of the same flavor along with the 30ml bottle, so it's listed as 36ml. Very nice.
*Note: the Chef's default mix is 50PG/50VG, and that's what I ordered. The strength was 24mg/ml.
Response and Shipping:
Both were just fantastic. Order confirmation was immediate, the juice was made fresh to order, and the order was shipped the following day (I placed the order in the evening, so that is of course to be expected).
The order was placed on Thursday the 24th in the evening. It was shipped via USPS 1st Class Parcel Post on Friday the 25th in the morning. The shipment arrived on Monday the 28th.
I live in Washington State, and The Vapor Chef is located in Pennsylvania. That's exceptionally fast shipping time for a cross-country 1st Class order, especially allowing for weekend travel - I honestly wasn't expecting it to arrive until Tuesday at the earliest, so I was very pleasantly surprised by, and pleased with, the fast service provided.
In preparation for testing the juices, I opened up and assembled a brand new Vision Eternity RBA. The Caramel Apple was tested in dripping mode, and the Frosty Apple was tested in tank mode using the eGo-T tank that's included with the Eternity. This is a very versatile rig, and I highly recommend it, but enough of that - this is a juice review, after all (But, check out the Vision Eternity - seriously - it's a fantastic multi-purpose device.).
The bottles were still cold from their cross-country Winter journey when they arrived, so I allowed them to warm up naturally until they reached room temperature before diving in.
Opening the Package:
The order was very carefully packed. The 5.5"x5.5" shipping box was packed tightly with bio-degradable packing "peanuts". Each bottle was in its own sealed Zip-Lock bag, and the bag was wrapped generously with bubble wrap.
Ooh! The 36ml of the Caramel Apple is in a fuzzy drawstring bag! There was a free fuzzy drawstring bag included! A 3.5"x4.5" fuzzy drawstring bag, no less! I love fuzzy drawstring bags! I mean, who doesn't love fuzzy drawstring bags, right? Endless uses...
(Rumor has it that there might be a free Toy Soldier included in some future orders. I hope he's packed in the fuzzy drawstring bag to keep him warm.)
Right, then - where was I... ah, yes...
The 15ml and 30ml bottles are clear glass with glass dropper caps (these are the good quality droppers - fat, with a nice taper at the end, not the cheapo skinny ones), and the 6ml bottles are the standard plastic ones. None of them are child-proof, so taking appropriate precautions is strongly recommended if you have pets and/or small children. The dropper caps are tightly shrink-wrap sealed onto the glass bottles with good quality thick and stiff shrink-wrap, but the glass bodies of the bottles themselves are exposed.
Holy Mother of... oh, wow. Just... wow.
I have never in all the years I've been vaping ever tasted a juice with flavor this accurate! Not once. Not ever. It tastes exactly like the Red Candy Apples that you can get at the store during Halloween season, at the Circus, or at the Carnival (no sprinkled nuts, though). I used to be a Carny in my younger days, and I was instantly transported by that first taste back 40 years down Memory Lane - ah, good times... I don't normally say this about juices - I usually say that they're good, or tasty, but, This. Was. Delicious! Again, wow.
However, I would personally call it Candy Apple instead of Caramel Apple, because that's exactly what it tastes like to me - in my experience, caramel flavoring tends to really stand out in a mix and at times (actually, more often than not) can even overpower the intended flavor, and that's just not happening at all with this delightful concoction. The flavoring balance is perfect.
This is a very interesting flavor. Chef Aras uses Koolada to give it a nice "cool bite". It's a cool, refreshing hit like Menthol, but without the stinging Mentholy taste. It actually enhances the sweet appley goodness, giving it a "crisp out of the icebox" impression. This is another amazingly accurate flavor - it was like biting into a cold, sweet, fresh apple. Again, I have to call this one delicious as well.
The vapor production is just what one would expect from a 50/50 mix. The Throat Hit is decidedly not. It is exceptionally strong for a 50/50 mix. But, like I said above, I vape 24mg juice, so that factor needs to be taken into consideration as well. As always, YMMV.
These juices are worth every penny paid for them, and then some. If the Chef was asking $25/30ml, I'd pay it in a heartbeat for this level of quality. These are most definitely "Shake'n'Vape" juices - they're just wonderful fresh, and will probably only get better with steeping, but I somehow doubt that they'll have a chance to do that before they're all used up and re-ordered, because they're just so delicious.
ProTip: Blend the Frosty Apple with some of the Caramel Apple for an instant icy Candy Apple mouthgasm. 'nuff said.
I cannot recommend The Vapor Chef enough. Chef Aras is a professional Chef. He has tapped into his years of experience, and applied them to his mixing. The flavors he creates are incredibly accurate, and outstandingly delicious. This is extremely high quality juice that I am confident you will enjoy to the last drop.
Cheers, and Happy Vaping, everyone! =D
From Steve3d on reddit.
The reviews I'm getting are great!
I sat down with one of the juices form my initial order from Vapor Chef on Saturday, and I figured I would share my first impressions. The full review is here for those interested.
As someone who does DIY, I've learned that mixing various layers of flavor can be a PITA, often resulting in more failure than success. So when I started vaping Coolcumber Melon, I admit I wasn’t sure how these flavors would play together.
With Coolcumber Melon, Vapor Chef has hit the balance mark, and managed to create a juice that is both flavorful and unique. Coolcumber Melon is honeydew, cucumber, and mint. The honeydew stands out on the inhale, offering a sweet note that hits the real flavor of the fruit exactly.
As you start tasting the honeydew, the sweetness is cut with the clean flavor of the cucumber, which develops better on the exhale. But what ties these two together is the mint. On the inhale, the mint makes the honeydew pop and gives your tongue a slight chill, and on the exhale the mint again offers a kiss of cold, but augments the cucumber ensuring that you taste it.
I’ve never had a juice like this. It’s sweet, and has a coolness that helps balance things out, but it isn’t overpowering. The cucumber plays well with the honeydew, and after you vape this for a while, each flavor profile can be clearly tasted – all while being touched by the mint.
Overall, it’s a great flavor. It’s not something I could see myself using as an ADV however. I vaped the entire 5ml bottle, and once I was done with it, I had to have something different. For me, it’d make a great once-in-a-while juice, something that I can use when my normal ADVs get boring.
I’d recommend it to anyone who is looking for something new, especially if you’re looking for a juice that falls outside the normal flavor spectrum.
Shipping prices are up...
Unfortunately shipping prices have risen. I am forced to raise priority shipping to $6.99. First class will remain at $2.99.
So this is the 36 ml Package. All 36 ml orders will come packaged as so.